Scott,
The decision to use CF was made before I arrived but I think it was a good
one considering needs at the time. My sense is that it's selection was due
to tight integration with databases, availability of a windows server
version as well and formal support channels.
My preference would have been JSP only because of it's relationship to
Java. I was actually programing in PHP prior to CF in any case, PHP is a
fine web programming tool. I think they were more concerned with support
and ease of use than anything else, not that concerned with the cost of the
CF server and development tools.
I have to say that MM has provided consistently good and timely support.
Practically, there have been few issues relative to the CF engine itself.
However our current use of the JRun server directly, CFMX is a Java
application that runs as an instance within the JRun environment, has been
a bit more troublesome. But again MM has been very supportive and the
issues we experienced are mostly resolved. CFMX is fully integrated with
Java and my understanding is that it can use many if not all the features
available to Java itself so we have CF and Java functionality to lean on
developing our applications.
In the future we hope to run all our CF applications, 30 or so at last
count, on campus hosted servers. We just migrated our Oracle DB to CCS over
the summer and early fall and are VERY happy with our arrangement with
them, I have to say they did a great job start to finish. No more server
worries for us at all.
Dreaming, wouldn't it be nice to use any application environment you need
to get the job done? I would like to see the campus provide development
accounts for not only Oracle but CF, PHP, PERL, JSP, Java and cutting edge
stuff like Ruby and or Ruby on Rails as well. I have the impression that
some kind of campus wide web development environment is being considered
and or worked on at the moment. I would like to see a kind of universal
tiered, DEV, QA and PROD, web development account wherein a developer can
use whatever language and or DB system needed to get the job done. A kind
of server side Eclipse for campus web application developers.
More than you wanted to know probably but there you have it...
John
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>On Dec 19, 2005, at 11:22 AM, John Ingham wrote:
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>>been its necessarily strong typing. With CF the typing is essentially non
>>existent, by comparison, which is the case with Ruby as I understand it.
>>That, coupled with the fact that it is open source is a big draw for me
>>as a programmer to be sure but as we have numerous applications running
>>and are otherwise seriously invested in CF the college will probably not
>>be shifting gears any time soon .
>
>Out of curiosity, what are some of the reasons you chose CF over PHP? I
>see them as essentially similar, but with PHP having the open source
>advantage. Both have some features the other doesn't have, but I'm curious
>what the reasons were/are for a functioning CF house.
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>Thanks,
>Scot
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