RE: Using Ghost Console to manage clients across subnets

Hi:
I would like to have a small training on how these applications work. I had
a very difficult time when I was trying to use them and gave up about a
month ago. I've been meaning to post to the list and publicly thank Graham
for all the help he gave me while I was trying to recover a lost system. He
was very supportive and had great tools that helped me bring the lab back
online.

Lucia Greco
Assistive Technology Specialist
University Of California Berkeley
(510) 643-7591
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Subject: Re: [Micronet] Using Ghost Console to manage clients across subnets

At 08:05 PM 5/7/2007, ken lindahl wrote:

>i'm not real familiar with the Ghost Solution Suite, but i assume the
>Ghost Console mentioned by Seth is a different component from the
>Ghostcast server. is that correct?

Yes, that's correct. We are currently just trying to manage clients from
the Ghost Console, which uses multicast, and we haven't yet attempted to do
anything with the GhostCast server. Ultimately, we would like to use the
GhostCast server, however.

In any case, it's helpful to know that directed broadcast probably won't be
an option because we would need it enabled in multiple subnets across
campus.

Thanks, Ken and Kevin, for your responses.

Seth

>Kevin Zimmerman wrote:
>> We have been using Corporate Edition Ghost to build multiple
>>clients simultaneously using their Ghostcast server. However, to get
>>this to work for clients not on the same subnet we've had to ask
>>networks_at_eecs to activate "directed broadcast" with the target subnet.
>
>ouch. "directed broadcast" is the foundation of the infamous "smurf"
>DoS. enabling "directed broadcast" allows the router to participate in
>smurf attacks against other networks:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smurf_attack
>
>Kevin, i assume you're using (or trying) the multicast mode of Ghost?
>(is that implied by use of the word "Ghostcast"?)
>
>> This may not be quite the same as what you're doing, but
>>perhaps it will be a clue. As a point of reference, the EECS nets are
>>managed by EECS support rather than IST, and are Extreme rather than
>>Cisco switches. EECS networking prefers to have directed broadcast
>>turned off when we're not actually building clients.
>
>i imagine so. it is generally considered bad practice to have it enabled.
>
>i'm not real familiar with the Ghost Solution Suite, but i assume the
>Ghost Console mentioned by Seth is a different component from the
>Ghostcast server. is that correct?
>
>thanks,
>ken
>
>> Kevin
>>
>>>Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 15:45:12 -0700
>>>To: micronet-list_at_lists.berkeley.edu
>>>From: Seth Novogrodsky <seth_at_ls.berkeley.edu>
>>>Subject: [Micronet] Using Ghost Console to manage clients across
>>>subnets We have the Ghost Solution Suite 2.0, and we have installed
>>>the Ghost Console on a Windows 2003 server in the data center. So
>>>far we have been unable to establish a connection between the clients
>>>and server either by specifying the name of the server in the client
>>>or by attempting to do a remote installation of the software from the
>>>Ghost Console. As an experiment, we installed the Ghost Console on a
>>>machine in the same room as one of the clients, and we were able to
>>>manage the client in this case. This console was able to see one
>>>client in another subnet but was not able to manage it.
>>>Has anyone successfully used the Ghost Console to manage clients in
>>>different subnets? If so, did you need to do anything special to get
>>>it to work? Any information you might have would be helpful.
>>>Symantec Technical Support has been of no help so far.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Seth
>>>
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