Re: Using Ghost Console to manage clients across subnets

From: Seth Novogrodsky <seth_at_LS.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 09:50:44 -0700

At 08:05 PM 5/7/2007, ken lindahl wrote:

>i'm not real familiar with the Ghost Solution Suite, but i assume
>the Ghost Console mentioned by Seth is a different component from
>the Ghostcast server. is that correct?

Yes, that's correct. We are currently just trying to manage clients
from the Ghost Console, which uses multicast, and we haven't yet
attempted to do anything with the GhostCast server. Ultimately, we
would like to use the GhostCast server, however.

In any case, it's helpful to know that directed broadcast probably
won't be an option because we would need it enabled in multiple
subnets across campus.

Thanks, Ken and Kevin, for your responses.

Seth

>Kevin Zimmerman wrote:
>> We have been using Corporate Edition Ghost to build multiple
>>clients simultaneously using their Ghostcast server. However, to
>>get this to work for clients not on the same subnet we've had to ask
>>networks_at_eecs to activate "directed broadcast" with the target subnet.
>
>ouch. "directed broadcast" is the foundation of the infamous "smurf"
>DoS. enabling "directed broadcast" allows the router to participate
>in smurf attacks against other networks:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smurf_attack
>
>Kevin, i assume you're using (or trying) the multicast mode of
>Ghost? (is that implied by use of the word "Ghostcast"?)
>
>> This may not be quite the same as what you're doing, but
>>perhaps it will be a clue. As a point of reference, the EECS nets
>>are managed by EECS support rather than IST, and are Extreme rather
>>than Cisco switches. EECS networking prefers to have directed
>>broadcast turned off when we're not actually building clients.
>
>i imagine so. it is generally considered bad practice to have it enabled.
>
>i'm not real familiar with the Ghost Solution Suite, but i assume
>the Ghost Console mentioned by Seth is a different component from
>the Ghostcast server. is that correct?
>
>thanks,
>ken
>
>> Kevin
>>
>>>Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 15:45:12 -0700
>>>To: micronet-list_at_lists.berkeley.edu
>>>From: Seth Novogrodsky <seth_at_ls.berkeley.edu>
>>>Subject: [Micronet] Using Ghost Console to manage clients across subnets
>>>We have the Ghost Solution Suite 2.0, and we have installed the
>>>Ghost Console on a Windows 2003 server in the data center. So far
>>>we have been unable to establish a connection between the clients
>>>and server either by specifying the name of the server in the
>>>client or by attempting to do a remote installation of the
>>>software from the Ghost Console. As an experiment, we installed
>>>the Ghost Console on a machine in the same room as one of the
>>>clients, and we were able to manage the client in this case. This
>>>console was able to see one client in another subnet but was not
>>>able to manage it.
>>>Has anyone successfully used the Ghost Console to manage clients
>>>in different subnets? If so, did you need to do anything special
>>>to get it to work? Any information you might have would be
>>>helpful. Symantec Technical Support has been of no help so far.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Seth
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