Re: Flurry of "by way of ..." messages sent to the Micronet list today

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From: Aron Roberts (aron_at_socrates.berkeley.edu)
Date: Wed Aug 06 2003 - 10:18:02 PDT


Hi Michael,

At 16:06 -0700 2003-08-05, Michael Sinatra wrote:
>On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Micronet mailing list administrator wrote:
>
>> On a time available basis -- and as long as this is feasible -- I will
>> continue to endeavor to forward messages to the list which are bounced
>> by the list server for various reasons, and to add 'alternate'
>> addresses of list members whose messages are bounced to a special
>> 'posters-only' list, to allow these members to post directly to the
> > list from multiple addresses. ...
>
>How does the "posters-only" list work? Do you think I can set one up for
>ucb-security?

   A description of the simple way we're currently doing this appears
below, in the form of an earlier response to Kathleen Connors of LHS.

Aron Roberts
Workstation Software Support Group

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>Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:26:58 -0700
>To: Kathleen Connors <kconnors_at_uclink4.berkeley.edu>
>From: "Aron Roberts" <aron_at_socrates.berkeley.edu>
>Subject: Re: [jnet] Message posting from a different email address
>Cc: Garey Mills <gmills_at_library.berkeley.edu>
>
>Hi Kathleen,
>
>At 11:22 -0700 2002-10-25, Kathleen Connors wrote:
>>In order to prevent spam from hitting the jnet list, I restricted
>>posts from non-subscribed emails. That means that if you send an
>>email to jnet from a different email address than the one you
>>subscribed under, it will not be sent to the list. I've noticed
>>that several people have sent jnet messages that have been bounced.
>>Apparently, there is no indication that your email has bounced,
>>except that you won't see your incoming message to jnet.
>
> We had to deal with this issue today, as well, in restricting the
>Micronet list so that only subscribers could post to the list, due
>to a spate of spam messages recently hitting that list.
>
> The way we've dealt with this so far is to set up a separate list
>to which list members could optionally subscribe. (This sounds a
>lot like the feature in the Mailman list server that Garey Mills
>described.) Majordomo allows you to restrict postings to a list to
>messages sent from addresses entered in one or more files on the
>list server host, some of which can be other Majordomo mailing
>lists. (Since I can't directly write to Majordomo files on UCLink,
>I've needed to go the 'secondary mailing list' route.)
>
> Here's the relevant line in the majordomo config file for the
>Micronet list that allows e-mail messages from any addresses
>subscribed to a second mailing list, 'micronet-list-posters-only',
>to be authorized for posting to the Micronet list:
>
>--
># Restrict posting to this list to members of the following lists
>restrict_post = micronet-list:micronet-list-posters-only
>--
>
>and here's the info 'blurb' that new subscribers to the
>micronet-list-posters-only will see, describing how we believe ;-)
>this will work:
>
>> The sole purpose of the 'micronet-list-posters-only' list is to
>>allow Micronet mailing list subscribers to specify additional
>>addresses from which they can post messages to the Micronet list.
>>
>> For instance, if you've subscribed to the Micronet list from
>>'myname_at_uclink.berkeley.edu', but also occasionally wish to send
>>messages to that list from 'myname_at_myisp.com', you can subscribe
>>the latter address to the 'micronet-list-posters-only' list.
>>
>> To unsubscribe from the 'micronet-list-posters-only' list, send
>>an e-mail message to 'majordomo_at_listlink.berkeley.edu'. In the
>>body (not subject) of the message, include the following command:
>>
>> unsubscribe micronet-list-posters-only myaddress
>>
>>where 'myaddress' is the e-mail address you wish to unsubscribe
>>from the list.
>>
>> For information about Micronet itself, including subscribing
>>to or unsubscribing from its mailing list and finding out
>>about upcoming meetings, please visit the Micronet Web site:
>><http://micronet.berkeley.edu/>.
>
> So far, I plan to simply manually subscribe a members' alternate
>address to the 'posters-only' list a) when I notice that a
>legitimate list subscriber has had a posting bounce from what
>appears to be one of their alternate addresses, or b) upon specific
>request. A bit later -- if it is not too confusing for our list's
>members -- we might publicize the existence of this second,
>'posters-only' list and describe how members can directly
>(un)subscribe themselves to that list.
>
> One other maintenance task: we'll probably need to occasionally
>prune the 'posters-only' list when the member associated with one of
>its addresses unsubscribes from the main list, or when we need to
>unsubscribe them manually ...
>
>Aron Roberts
>Workstation Software Support Group

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