From: Bruce Satow (satow@ssl.berkeley.edu)
Date: Fri Nov 15 2002 - 15:37:51 PST
I understand the point you are making, but the URL is
http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/11_nov/reviews/cw_macvspciii.htm
and the benchmarks chosen are based on common applications used by
people who do digital editing.
The whole PC versus Mac issue used to bother me too but not anymore. I
figure the best measure of performance for a desktop computer is how
much productivity the user is making regardless of whether it's a Mac or
Windows or Linux or Unix computer. Of course the user always wants the
fastest Mac or the fastest Windows or the fastest Linux machine....
Ian Crew wrote:
>
> At 2:48 PM -0800 11/15/02, Bruce Satow wrote:
> >If I primarily did DV as a career, I would want to know this
> >information...
>
> The thing is that this article doesn't say anything about doing DV as
> a career--it only talks about using certain functions in certain
> programs, selected to confirm a preconceived bias. If the programs
> or functions were selected differently you could make the results
> come out as a tie, a win for the Mac, or just about anything else you
> wanted. For example, the "Mac Vs PC Bake Offs" that Steve Jobs is
> famous for doing at his speeches are a good example of this from the
> other point of view--they always use programs and commands designed
> to make Macs look fast at the expense of PCs.
>
> So yes, this article is a single point of reference for certain
> application functions (which may me useful if you use those functions
> in those applications a lot), but it really bugs me when people use
> such things to make more general statements like "Mac is better than
> PC" or "PC is better than Mac." It really reminds me of a course
> that (I think) used to be taught here entitled "How to lie with
> statistics".....
>
> </rant>
>
> Ian
>
> >
> >Ian Crew wrote:
> >>
> >> As with all so-called "comparisons" this test is pretty highly
> >> biased. If you select your programs and tasks carefully, you can make
> >> just about any manufacturer's product appear to be the "fastest".
> >> All manufacturers (and their partisans) do this--doesn't matter if
> >> it's Mac vs. PC, DB2 vs. Oracle, or whatever.
> >>
> >> The funny thing is that people still seem to care about this sort of
> >> thing (it obviously sells magazines, or the journalists would stop
> >> writing them). Why is beyond me.
> >>
> >> BTW, If you want to see what the Mac bigots say in response to this
> >> PC bigot see <http://www.macnn.com/news.php?id=17351>--it's really
> >> kind of funny how worked up people get over this....
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>
> >> At 2:12 PM -0800 11/15/02, Rusty Wright wrote:
> >> > http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/11_nov/reviews/cw_macvspciii.htm
> >> >
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