Re: 802.11b PC Card recommendations?

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From: Kin S. Jung (kin@tsw.berkeley.edu)
Date: Mon Sep 10 2001 - 17:31:10 PDT


Hi Greg,

The Dell Latitude C800 does have a built-in antenna. To use the built-in
antenna you must use the Internal TrueMobile Wireless card that utilizes the
mini-PCI slot. Please note: there's only one mini-PCI slot in your C800.
That means that if you've got the internal modem/NIC utilizing the mini-PCI
bus then you're out of luck with trying to install the Internal TrueMobile
mini-PCI card that occupies the mini-PCI bus. If your internal mini-PCI
slot is open (perhaps your modem/nic is used in the CardBus slot), then you
can use the internal antenna.

The built-in antennae might give you better reception than one occupying the
CardBus slot but I don't have any concrete evidence-- only anecdotal
customer feedback-- i.e., "it seems like the range is better with the
internal antenna."

If you select your 802.11b card from Dell, be careful as to which card you
select as all Dell cards are branded TrueMobile. One type of TrueMobile
card is for use in the CardBbus slot (external antenna attached to PC card)
and the other (that utilizes Dell's Internal antenna) is the TrueMobile
mini-PCI which can be used on the Dell Latitude C500, C600, C800, and C810.

I'm not sure if the mini-PCI based card is user installable or not. To be
certain you're going to get the correct card try contacting Dell's tech's at
laptop@dell.com-- provide your service tag# in the email so they can lookup
the specs of your specific machine.

The standard Lucent Orinoco cards (CardBus) cannot utilize Dell's internal
antenna--they have their own antennae.

Dell's TrueMobile cards are made by Lucent for Dell. The cards are Wi-Fi
compliant and as such should be compatible with the UCB wireless test.
I've had only good experiences with Dell's cards and 802.11b and haven't had
any customer issues relating to Dell's wireless cards.

Best,

Kin

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Kin Jung
Sales Manager
The Scholar's Workstation
University of California, Berkeley
2200 University Avenue
Room 41
Berkeley, CA 94720

t./ 510.643.6181
f./ 510.643.6201
e./ kin@tsw.berkeley.edu

> From: Greg Small <gts@uclink.berkeley.edu>
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:20:06 -0700
> To: "Kin S. Jung" <kin@tsw.berkeley.edu>
> Cc: <micronet-list@uclink4.berkeley.edu>, "R.P. Aditya"
> <aditya@ack.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Micronet] 802.11b PC Card recommendations?
>
> Kin,
>
> I have a Dell Latitude C800. This unit claims to have a built-in antenna.
> Will the Lucent card use that antenna? Would the built-in antenna be an
> advantage?
>
> Do I need a Dell "TrueMobile" card to use the built-in antenna? Is the
> "TrueMobile" card compatible with the planned UCB wireless test?
>
> greg small
>
> At 03:17 PM 9/10/2001 -0700, Kin S. Jung wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The Scholar's Workstation, U.C. Berkeley's Campus Computer Store
>> <http://www.tsw.berkeley.edu> will be offering Wi-Fi certified Lucent
>> Orinoco Gold & Silver 802.11b Wireless cards (As Adi points out below, these
>> cards are also referred to as Wavelan/Avaya Orinoco products). The wireless
>> cards TSW will offer will be compatible with U.C. Berkeley's Wireless Task
>> Force recommendations for the campus' forthcoming Wireless Network being
>> operated by Communications & Network Services. For details visit:
>> <http://istpub.berkeley.edu:4201/bcc/Fall2001/news.wirelesslan.html>
>>
>> As several people have pointed out, the cards have been difficult to acquire
>> over the last few month's; however, according to our distributor, TSW should
>> have limited numbers available and in-stock later this week. As soon as we
>> receive our first shipment, I will send out a note to this group letting
>> everyone know about pricing, part numbers, and availability.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kin
>>
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>> Kin Jung
>> Sales Manager
>> The Scholar's Workstation
>> University of California, Berkeley
>> 2200 University Avenue
>> Room 41
>> Berkeley, CA 94720
>>
>> t./ 510.643.6181
>> f./ 510.643.6201
>> e./ kin@tsw.berkeley.edu
>>
>>> From: "R.P. Aditya" <aditya@ack.berkeley.edu>
>>> Reply-To: "R.P. Aditya" <aditya@ack.berkeley.edu>
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:33:33 -0700
>>> To: "Tom O'Brien" <Tomo@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
>>> Cc: micronet-list@uclink4.berkeley.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Micronet] 802.11b PC Card recommendations?
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Most of the 802.11b cards on the market are _pretty_ good. The more
>> expensive
>>> ones tend to have slightly better antennas. I would recommend the
>>> Wavelan/Lucent/Avaya Silver cards (unless you are unwisely relying on WEP).
>>> They seem to have the most mature drivers on a variety of operating systems
>>> (however they won't work under Mac OS X in those laptops that have a
>> built-in
>>> antenna). It looks like:
>>>
>>> http://www.lanstreet.com
>>>
>>> has them available and for a good price. I believe they also sell them in
>>> larger quantity (ie. 10+) with a volume discount.
>>>
>>> That said, as you can see under the "Pilot Sites" section at:
>>>
>>> http://www.net.berkeley.edu/wireless/
>>>
>>> any WiFi certified card will work with the CNS wireless network on
>> campus and
>>> most likely with any other wireless networks you are likely to
>> encounter. I've
>>> had success with Dlink (antenna isn't as good) and Cisco cards as well.
>> Since
>>> I've only tried the cards under FreeBSD, I can't really comment on the
>>> software that comes with any of the cards.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> Adi
>>>
>>> In message <p0510033cb7c2cb241772@[128.32.51.227]>, "Tom O'Brien" writes:
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> We have a PC Laptop that we'd like to put an 802.11b card into -- any
>>>> recommendations for brands to buy or avoid? I've heard wide ranging
>>>> reports on functionality... Also info on where purchased (I've been
>>>> looking for Lucent's card, but can't seem to find it) would be
>>>> helpful!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tomo
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> The University of California at Berkeley
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