Re: Mac 10.3 - G4's - Classic 9.1 & 9.2.2

Hi Charles,

   As others have already previously observed on this list, some Power
Macintosh G4 models cannot start up from Mac OS 9.

   To find out what model(s) you have, see:

     http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42739
     (newer models, introduced after July 2001)

     http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
     (earlier models)

   Another guide that may help is:

     http://www.welovemacs.com/howtodibesig.html
     (identifying the newer "Silver G4" models)

   Then once you know your model type(s), you can check the OS
compatibility chart at:

   http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25114

to find out which versions of Mac OS 9, if any, can run on and/or
start up these models.

   As footnotes to the chart point out regarding several Power Mac G4 models:

>These computers are supported by the version of Mac OS included with
>the computer when it was purchased; retail copies of Mac OS with the
>same (or earlier) version number may not include the system software
>components necessary to start up these models.

   In addition, are you able to run your earlier versions of FileMaker
Pro, Microsoft Office, et al. in Mac OS X's Classic environment --
which you can do simply by opening these applications under Mac OS X
-- or do you absolutely need to start up in Mac OS 9 in order to run
them? Relatively few applications absolutely require booting from OS
9.

   Finally, another issue that you can readily explore, after
installing Mac OS 9, is whether Mac OS X knows where to find your
newly-installed OS 9 System Folder in order to launch the Classic
environment. (In addition, OS X will likely need to add several
files to that System Folder in order to use it in the Classic
environment.) To check this, open System Preferences from the Apple
menu and click the Classic icon, then select the appropriate System
Folder.

Aron Roberts
Workstation Software Support Group

In the message "[MAGNet] Mac 10.3 - G4's - Classic 9.1 & 9.2.2",
dated 2004-07-06, Charles E. James wrote:

>Hi, All
>
>Yep, I know I already asked but I have a little more information.
>
>First, has anyone tried to install 10.3 (Panther) on a G4 and then
>install Classic 9.x.x? If yes, did it work? Here is why I ask this
>particular question. Upon some more research I have found a small
>note written on a pdf installation guide. It reads " On some
>computers, you cannot install Mac OS 9 or start up the computer
>using Mac OS 9."
>
>I experimented on this in this manner. I tried to install 9.1 and it
>would not install, regardless. I found a 9.2.2 version of classic
>and it installed on 10.3 but would not start up under 10.3. I then
>tried to boot straight into 9.2.2 by changing the boot options in
>preferences. It would not boot into anything and I ended up
>re-installing the original software when the machine was purchased
>(10.1 and classic 9.2.2).
>
>Like most of you, we need to have both 10.3 and classic to access
>and use the software we have and certain financial web accesses (new
>payroll programs?) that are requiring 10.3. Otherwise we have to
>come up with the extra funds to upgrade a lot of programs to work
>under 10.3 (i.e. Microsoft Office and Filemaker Pro to name two) .
>I am a little disappointed that those who instituted this new
>payroll program didn't research the repercussions to departments and
>gave such little lead time (July 1st was the deadline). As for us,
>coming up with the funds to upgrade our software is difficult...ops
>off the soapbox...
>
>Anyway, this is the reason for my question on the G4's. If someone
>has installed both 10.3 and classic, I need to know the process
>unless it turns out that the G4's are one of those machines where OS
>9 will not intall/start up when 10.3 is installed.
>
>As always, any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Charles
>
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>U. C. Berkeley California
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